Thursday, February 25, 2010

Why is my fresh coat of paint on my ceiling flaking when trying to apply a 2nd coat?

I starting painting the plaster ceiling, and when I went to do the second coat, the first one started peeling! Yikes! Does anyone know anything about what's wrong with the kitchen ceiling?Why is my fresh coat of paint on my ceiling flaking when trying to apply a 2nd coat?
I am not an expert but I may have some idea of what is happening, and some of the other answers are probably close to correct as well.


Paint needs something to adhere to. If the surface of the plaster is smooth and slick, the paint will have a difficult time ';sticking'; to it and will peel off quite easily. In addition, if the plaster has a coat of latex paint on it and you try to paint oil of top of that layer, it may not stick, if I am not mistaken. As one person mentioned, oil and grease can also be a potential culprit, which, if heavy enough, could prevent the paint from adhering properly. If this were an issue you would need to remove all the paint, as much as is possible, then clean the surface with a degreaser/cleaner, which they sell in the paint section of your hardware store, then do the primer, then the paint.


Long story shortened, assuming this is a smooth if not slick surface, you will need to prime the surface first. A primer type of paint is designed to stick to slick surfaces easily and provides a ';tacky';, for lack of a better word, surface for the actual paint to stick to.


While this takes that much more time to do it is almost a necessity many times, if you want to do the job once, do it right, and be done with it.


I hope this has helped.Why is my fresh coat of paint on my ceiling flaking when trying to apply a 2nd coat?
is the first coat of paint dry? is there moisture in the air? these could make your paint flake.
Is it paint peeling or is the texture coming off... that happens a lot w/ older houses.





If the texture is flaking off... go real slow with lots of paint on your roller. (this way you don't have to apply as much pressure.





Be Blessed!
You might be using a water based paint over an oil based paint. Try using a primer first..The ceiling might have been dirty also, like with the oils and grease from cooking. Try cleaning it then priming it. Lowes or Home Depot has great primers for oil based paint. You can use oil based over water based but not the other way around. I would let the first coat dry thoroughly..like a week or so. Scrape off any loose paint, then prime with a good primer (they can be color coated too). You should be ready now to finish with a good coat of paint. Get a good brush and a good paint. Forget the no name paint. All the Lowes brands and Home Depot brands along with Sherman Williams, Baer, Glidden, Benjamin Moore...All great paint. But get a GOOD brush. No sense spending good money on the paint and not the brush and roller. Makes for a better job. Any of the Home stores can help you out in this matter. GOOD LUCK!!!!!!!!!
It sounds to me that it had been previously painted with an oil base paint and you used a latex paint over the top. It is not always easy to detect an oil base paint so it is alway good to test before painting. I also learned the hardway and painted some walls with a latex paint over an oil base paint. The way that I remedied the problem, was I bought a product called KilZ 2,It is a primer and it is used for preparation between painted walls. They make this product in a water base that can also be used to paint over an oil base paint. You can purchase this at any store like Fred myers, Lowes, Home Depot etc. Anyway, I had to paint over what I had painted, and the product soaked through the paint that I had painted (thank goodness I had only done one coat before I discovered it, as maybe it wouldn't have worked if I had put more coats on)The product just kind of melted through or soaked through to the underneith paint and made it stick together. But Of course I had to repaint. Good Luck!
You need to seal the ceiling with a primer before you paint
you don't say how old your house is, but if it is an older home, like 1930's, the ceilings could have calcimine paint on them. if your home is newer than that, it could be cooking grease, if you didn't scrub the ceilings with TSP and hot water, and then rinse with hot water. if your first coat of paint seems to really soak in to the coating on the ceiling, i'd guess that it has calcimine paint. you will need to talk to a paint specialist for the correct covering for calcimine paint, or scrub it off and start fresh. hope this helps, good luck.

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